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Message to Man of Steel haters: shut up hypocrites by ImdaBatman Message to Man of Steel haters: shut up hypocrites by ImdaBatman
I'm so fed up with all the complaints about what I consider the greatest Superman movie ever. And here's why:

"It's too dark for Superman"
No, it's to dark for Richard Donner-style Superman. First of all, it's not darker. It's more serious. And yes, there IS a difference! Second, I'd ask if any of you have ever even picked up a comic, but I already know that Supes is a classic cast of what calls "Complaining about Shows You Don't Watch". In other words, I can think of dozens of stories off the top of my head that are just as dark: "The Death of Superman", "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow", "Kingdom Come", "Red Son", the list goes on!

"Too much destruction"
Yeah, because "The Avengers" and the Transformers movies were so mild-mannered. Or that last Star Trek movie, where a giant fucking starship crashed into San Francisco, about 2x the damage from MoS. If anything, the Avengers are even more responsible for any collateral damage: they were fighting a bunch of "go down in one hit" kind of mooks. Superman was fighting guys with the same powers, plus military training. Plus, HEL-LOOOOOOOOOOO! Ever wonder if 90% of the people evacuated when they saw a giant fucking alien laser drill hovering over them!?

(Spoiler alert) "Superman killed Zod"
I know, right? How he mercilessly crushed his hand, then throws him into a chasm and shares a moment with Lois (who also had just killed someone) like nothi-...Oh, wait, that's "Superman II", the time nobody ever gave him crap about. This is the time where he was...well, it already says so right up there. There's a difference between killing to save lives and cold-blooded murder. Not only did Bats kill Rā's al Ghūl, he also tied a gargoyle to the Joker's leg and made him fall about 800 feet or so, and then there's how he shoved Harvey Dent off a building - hell that last one was literally the exact same situation that Superman was in!
EDIT: Not to mention when Iron Man killed a whole room full of thugs just because one of them broke a motherfucking Dora the Explorer watch. He literally told him he would be the first to die.

I know nobody likes Superman anymore, but give him a freaking chance! At least it's not "Superman Returns" (the one movie I hate more than "Iron Man 3").

I don't own. Rights to characters & films belong to DC comics.
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BenKenobi95 Featured By Owner 5 days ago
FINALLY!!! Someone says something.
killb94 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014
Excellent comebacks. I really think people hate on Zack Snyder and MoS because it some distorded way "it's cool" to do that.

And to some people MoS has "no cleverness"? ...Ok, fine, if for them "cleverness" means the hero contradicting his own moral ("all the powers I had I could't save Pa Kent's heart attack!"--->Prevents Lois' death with horseshit timetravel AND despite having a rule of not timetraveling), father figures being idiots (Jor-El sending Superman to protect the Earth--->Designs a crystal chamber in the Fortress that can destory his powers; says that Superman can't timetravel--->Nothing bad happens; Superman's mom telling that once he uses the chamber he can't get his powers back--->TURNS OUT HE CAN AND EASILY), TONS of slapstick humor, retarded jokes and dumb villains with no backstory or motivations, that's they dumb decision. But they need to stop denying the truth.
...The Richard Donner movies are the brainless shitbags with one-dimensional protagonists fighting against one-dimensional villains.

"Man of Steel" has a protagonist being multidimensional, developing, learning, NOT BEING A FUCKING GARY-STU, it has a menacing villain who has a backstory and surprisingly enough an understandable motivation, it has the female characters being proactive, it has a solid plot (with a few things to nitpick thoug, like all superhero films) ...And just because at the end there's a "big destruction" THAT'S NOT A GOOD REASON TO IGNORE EVERYTHING BEHIND IT.

And since we're talking about the final battle...
A) "Superman could've took it somewhere else!" IS BULLSHIT because Zod was terraforming the Earth (how the fuck can you "take that away somewhere else" you fucking retards?!) and Zod's intention was to not kill Superman after the kryptonian medic told him that Superman doesn't have to be still alive to get the codex out of his body, so do the math. But listen... Why couldn't the Avengers "take the battle somewhere else"? What is this, "all superhero films are equal but some are more equal than others" or some shit?
B) "In The Avengers the heroes CARED about civilians during the fight!" ...THE AVENGERS ARE FUCKING SIX, Superman is only ONE. Also, the terraforming drill was destructive, but it avanced SLOWLY, obviously most of that part of Metropolis was already evacuated (in this movie PEOPLE ARE SMART AND THEY GOT THE HELL OUT OF THERE, they did't waste time making slapstick humor during a fucking alien attack like in fucking "Superman II")
C) "Well... METROPOLIS GETTING PARTIALLY DESTOYED IS HORRIBLE!" ...Again, as ImdaBatman said, you have to read more fucking comics before you open your goddamn mouth. Metropolis gets destroyed and fucked up several times in the comics, the stuff in MoS is nothing new.

...I really have no idea why MoS gets so much shit. The criticism it gets is truly ridiculos.
Al-Ocramed Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014
Man of Steel was just Transformers without the bots.  Not cleverness, with the emphasis on EXPLOSIONS.  Secondly, comparing Batman with Superman is "apples v. oranges".  You can't compare the two characters, unless they have similar origins (which they do not).  Can't compare MoS with the Avengers, since the Avengers is a team effort that limited the alien attack, while Superman didn't limit anything in his fight (he actually took his first fight with Zod INTO Smallville).  No strategy.  Just rock 'em, sock 'em.  As for Zod being killed by Superman: Zach Synder and David Goyer wanted that, while Christopher Nolan did not, thus, Zod's death was not necessary (i.e. plot convenience).  Personally, Superman should have killed Zod the moment he threatened Earth.  Heck, at the very least, he should have done so when Ma Kent was threatened.

And for the record, most people complained about Superman Returns, too (i.e. no action, repeat of plot from first Superman film, deadbeat dad, etc.).  So, the hate for MoS is not unique.
Scarecrow113 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 28, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I thought everybody hated the Transformers movies?
ImdaBatman Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I for one am kinda "so-so" about them
Scarecrow113 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Okay, just checking.
PeachLover94 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Student General Artist
I think the moment in Man of Steel when Kal-El/Clark Kent/Superman kills General Zod and regrets it - that is the beginning of one of Superman's creed of "not to kill for any reason - be they noble or not - if he can help it".

Even though I am STILL a big fan of Superman (due in no small part to Christopher Reeve), it's... fascinating to see different interpretations of the character (within certain boundaries that respect the image Siegel and Shuster set out to make).
Stealwave Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014
How's what batman did cold blood?
ImdaBatman Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Doesn't it seem a little hypocritical to kill a guy who you've been wagging your finger at for killing people the whole damn movie?
Stealwave Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
He didn't kill Ra's, he just didn't save him
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